From a Kyiv Shootout to a Seized Ship: The Escalation Meant to Pull America Back Into the War
Introduction
The Duran's two hosts read the week's Ukraine news as one connected machine. A front that is collapsing; a capital whose own security services shot at each other for hours; a civilian ship seized in the Arctic; and behind all of it, in their reading, a single purpose — getting the United States back into the military picture. What follows reconstructs the argument with attribution and hedging in place. Four of the events discussed were checked for this article: Putin's Bishkek press conference (Kremlin transcript and same-day wire coverage), Norway's seizure of a research vessel enforcing Naftogaz's arbitration award (Reuters), the SBU–HUR shootout (Guardian, NYT, Le Monde), and the Leipzig drone incident (The Insider). One check cuts against the show: the Norwegian seizure was carried out under a district-court order. The front-line picture, the casualty relay and every intention-reading are the speakers' own.
The Shattering
Mercouris leads with the fixed point: Ukraine "is being absolutely shattered" — pounded from the air, blockaded on its coastline, losing positions on the front lines. At Bishkek Putin summarized the front, and swathes of other information have since corroborated it: Orekhov "about 50% under Russian control" and mostly encircled, Dobropillya likewise; Sviatohirsk, a center of Russian Orthodoxy, taken; Kozacha Lopan pointing the advance at Kharkiv city, with a group of Ukrainian troops apparently surrounded in the northeast. Even as they advance, the Russians "continue to pound Kyiv now every single night," with devastating damage across the country.
Then the symptoms. "We are starting to see symptoms of desperation" — Zelensky's Telegram video that Ukraine's allies "were on holiday" while the country was blasted; the X statement about closing down Russian airspace completely, "physically impossible" for the biggest country in the world, but reviving Fedorov's early-summer plan for mass attacks on Moscow and St. Petersburg airports. Europe's hardliners escalate on their own account: the Leipzig drone episode, which Christoforou calls "the dumbest false flag incident in all of history" (his reading — investigative reporting attributes it to an FSB sabotage campaign); Italy stopping a Cameroonian-flagged ship; and Norway seizing another actual Russian ship in the Arctic. The hosts read the pattern as purposeful: all of it to get the United States "back in the picture, the military picture," to Ukraine's rescue and Europe's own once a conflict with Russia is provoked.
The State Shoots at Itself
The wildest expression of the panic: "a gunfight in Kyiv going on for many, many hours" — between the SBU, loyal to Zelensky, and the HUR military intelligence previously headed by Budanov. The trigger is relayed explicitly as rumor — talk that a detainee "was going to snitch on Budanov," with Budanov's men sent to take him back — and the casualties are hedged too: "there were people killed in that shootout… at least those are reports that I'm getting" (verified reporting has three HUR officers injured, one critically; the killed count is not confirmed). A well-informed blogger channel adds the money layer: "a fight for control of scam call centers" — a huge business targeting Western citizens, from which "the EU completely looks away." Whatever the precise trigger, Mercouris's conclusion is that tensions inside Kyiv are growing and "the various factions are now openly fighting each other."
Washington's Mixed Signals
The American half of the hour: Bessent told Fox News that Ukraine "is to blame" for the energy and gas price shock, because it went after Russian refineries — drawing Christoforou's retort, "Who gave them the targeting and satellite data… Mr. Blinken?" Against the blame-shifting, the G20 oddity: Blinken's "apparently a very friendly meeting with Siluanov," the Russian finance minister — from which Mercouris senses "maybe the Americans are now starting to shift their views on some things." Putin's press conference supplies the frame: Russia does not negotiate with terrorists, and "he all but said that Zelensky is a terrorist." On striking the leadership in Kiev: "we need someone to talk to" — then, halfway through the thought, "if things continue the way they're going, well, we have tools, basically" — so that, in Mercouris's reading, Putin has "left the possibility of a strike against the political leadership open" more than ever before.
A Passenger Ship and a Piracy Order
The episode's fullest treatment goes to the seizure: the ship "was a Russian ship but also a civilian ship," carrying passengers to Svalbard, doing scientific research — not military, not a tanker, not even grain — tied, we are told, to Naftogaz's four-billion-dollar claim against Russia. It "doesn't come anywhere close to meeting" whatever compensation Naftogaz claims; it is, in Mercouris's view, harassment pattern, like the Mediterranean seizure of a ship only carrying Russian oil. And "there's no court judgment that justifies seizing a Russian ship" — as far as he is aware; this is the one point where the verified record cuts the other way, the seizure having been executed under a Norwegian district-court order enforcing Naftogaz's award. With Putin's instructions to the Russian Navy that seizing Russian ships is piracy, Mercouris expects "European ships being seized in the Pacific at some point fairly soon" — and intentionally so: "this is what these attacks on shipping are intended to provoke," a direct clash between Russians and Americans as the only way now, in this reading, to prevent Ukraine going down.
Vassals, Proxies, Handoffs
The structural layer comes from an American economist's article: a group within Europe — Baltic-Nordic in concentration, with Germans and Britons — thirsts for direct confrontation and is maneuvering the United States into it. Vassals, yes; but "sometimes vassals themselves try to manipulate their overlord" into such conflicts, with historical examples. The prescription is America's to fill: put the foot down, have the Norwegians release the ship, tell Meloni's Italy to stop. The catch: "the Americans themselves are not united on these questions" — a Blinken might prefer the crisis avoided, some in the Pentagon too, the intelligence community not — and the president is "prepared to engage in extraordinary acts of duplicity towards the Russians," which is why they don't trust him. Hawks and doves converge on one thing: "for them Ukraine is a purely functional question" — a proxy to keep Russia busy, with Europe meant "to pick up where Ukraine is going to leave off" while the Americans orchestrate from behind the curtain. The European vassals, for their part, want to remain vassals — which means keeping the master from walking away to China. The American preference in a line: after Ukraine, Europe go ahead — just keep us at a distance.
Staying Out Gets Harder
The close is a forecast with its mechanism. If a Russia–Europe conflict comes, "the pressures for them to become involved are going to be overwhelming" — the sidelines untenable. The right way out was the summer-2024 advice (Russia is not our problem; take on the Russians yourselves): said in January 2025, "they would be in a much stronger position" — but the weapons supplied, the arms purchases, the intelligence assistance and the orchestrated drone offensive now make walking away all but impossible. Which provocations could actually pull the US in? Christoforou's tiering: "Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania, whatever, we don't care"; "if it's Poland, the US starts to care a little more" — Germany and the UK are the real risk, which is where the false-flag attempts have moved. And the levers are real: American influence "in both London and Berlin is enormous" — an ambassador's call brings the British cabinet — and over Britain the off-switch: "everybody knows that 90% of the traffic is in the other direction."
Interview Highlights
5 exchanges- Q
What is actually happening to Ukraine — and why is Europe escalating?
Alex Christoforou asked00:00AAlexander Mercouris answeredThe key thing: Ukraine is being absolutely shattered — pounded from the air, blockaded on its coastline, losing positions on the front lines. At Bishkek Putin summarized the front, corroborated by swathes of other information: Orekhov about 50% under Russian control, mostly encircled; Dobropillya in Donbass largely encircled; fighting around Lyman; the capture of Sviatohirsk, a center of Russian Orthodoxy; Kozacha Lopan in the Kharkiv region — a town, not a village — bringing the Russians closer to Kharkiv city, with a group of Ukrainian troops apparently surrounded in the northeast. Kyiv is pounded every night, with devastating damage. Then the symptoms of desperation: Zelensky's video statement that Ukraine's allies were on holiday while the country was blasted, and his X statement about closing down Russian airspace — physically impossible for the biggest country in the world — reviving Fedorov's early-summer plan for mass attacks on Moscow and St. Petersburg airports; threats the Russians describe as terrorism. Europe's hardliners take their own steps — the bizarre Leipzig drone incident near the Ukrainian Antonov 124, Italy stopping a Cameroonian-flagged ship, Norway seizing a Russian ship in the Arctic — all, in this reading, to create an atmosphere of escalation whose ultimate purpose is to pull the United States back into the military picture once a conflict with Russia is provoked.
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What is the SBU–HUR shootout in Kyiv really about?
Alex Christoforou asked07:10AAlexander Mercouris answeredA many-hours gunfight in Kyiv between Ukraine's two intelligence and security services — the SBU, loyal to Zelensky, and the HUR military intelligence previously headed by Budanov: the SBU arresting people connected with the HUR, the HUR moving to protect them, with reports of dead and injured. At the center, the rumor of a detainee who might snitch on Budanov — and Budanov's men sent to take him back. A well-informed blogger adds another dimension: a fight for control of scam call centers, a huge business in Ukraine that specifically targets Western and European citizens while the EU looks completely away, with echoes of the Monaco oligarch story and its court case. The conclusion: people are beginning to worry that the money flows are going to stop, and are fighting over them while the flows still continue. Whatever the precise trigger — turf war over economic assets is a plausible reading — it is clearly a sign that things are getting very bad: tensions inside Kyiv are growing and the various factions are now openly fighting each other.
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Is seizing Russian ships piracy — and what is it meant to provoke?
Alex Christoforou asked15:10AAlexander Mercouris answeredNorway seized not a military ship, not an oil tanker, not even a grain carrier, but a civilian passenger ship that also does scientific research, ferrying people from Russia to Svalbard — tied, we are told, to Naftogaz's $4-billion lawsuit against Russia, the idea being to hand the ship over to Ukraine as compensation. That comes nowhere near meeting whatever compensation claim Naftogaz says it has; it is obviously part of a pattern of harassment, alongside the Mediterranean seizure of a ship that was not Russian-owned and not Russian-flagged, only carrying Russian oil. A few weeks ago Putin instructed the Russian Navy to treat the seizure of Russian ships as piracy on the high seas — and there is no legal decision, no court judgment justifying the seizure of the Svalbard ferry. So European ships being seized in response is all but certain — and intentional: these attacks on shipping in the Mediterranean and the Arctic are meant to provoke exactly that, in the hope of getting the United States somehow involved, pressuring the Americans into action and creating a direct clash between the Russians and the Americans — the only way now, in this reading, to prevent Ukraine going down.
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Are Europe's vassals trying to maneuver their overlord into war with Russia?
Alex Christoforou asked18:04AAlexander Mercouris answeredA very good article by an American economist makes the point: there is a group of people within Europe — concentrated geographically in the Baltic and Nordic region, but also including people in Germany and Britain — who are thirsting for a direct military confrontation with Russia and trying to maneuver the United States into it. Yes, they are vassals; but the economist's exact point is that sometimes vassals themselves try to manipulate their overlord into these kinds of conflicts, with historical examples where that has happened. It is for the Americans to put their foot down: tell the Europeans this must stop, tell the Norwegians to release the ship, tell Meloni's Italy to stop doing this. The catch is that the Americans themselves are not united — a Blinken, given the many economic problems, might prefer a crisis with the Russians avoided, probably some in the Pentagon too; others in the intelligence community are as fully on board with confrontation as anyone in Europe. The president leans now one way, now the other, and is prepared to engage in extraordinary acts of duplicity towards the Russians — which is exactly why the Russians don't trust him. A bad situation.
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If Europe and Russia clash, can the United States really stay on the sidelines?
Alex Christoforou asked25:36AAlexander Mercouris answeredThe Americans are perfectly relaxed about a conflict between Russia and Europe — but may not be realistic about what follows: the pressures for them to become involved will be overwhelming, and remaining completely on the sidelines extremely difficult. The right way — the advice given in the summer of 2024 — was to say: Russia is not our problem, Ukraine is not our problem; take on the Russians by yourselves. Having instead supplied weapons, let the Europeans buy American arms for Ukraine, continued intelligence assistance and orchestrated the drone offensive, walking away is now all but impossible; what is left is calling the vassals together and saying: this is where it stops. As for which provocations can actually pull the US in: the Baltics or Romania — Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia — could not matter less; the neocons did not care about those drone incidents. Poland starts to matter more; Germany or the UK is where the real risk lies — which is why the false-flag attempts have shifted to Germany and the UK. And the leverage exists: American influence over London and Berlin is enormous — the ambassador only has to call in the British cabinet. Switching off intelligence assistance takes the pressing of a switch, and 90% of the traffic flows in that direction.
