
Putin confident in victory, project Ukraine failed and Europe failed
Executive Summary
Alex Christoforou and Alexander Mercouris interpret Vladimir Putin’s post–Victory Day press conference as evidence of a deepening rupture between Russia and Europe. They argue that Putin still sees strategic value in maintaining a channel with the United States, especially under Donald Trump, while treating European leaders as untrustworthy and politically subordinate. Mercouris disagrees with Putin’s apparent allocation of blame and says US neoconservatives remain the ultimate drivers of the conflict. The discussion distinguishes the claimed failure of “project Ukraine”—understood by the hosts as an attempt to destabilize and break up Russia—from the continuing war in Ukraine. Mercouris predicts that Russia will make further demands after Donbas, that Ukraine will reject them, and that fighting will continue. He also expects Russia–Europe relations to settle into an exceptionally icy peace and Russian energy strategy to turn toward China. These are the hosts’ interpretations and forecasts, not independently verified findings.
Chapters & Key Takeaways
Putin's Closed Door to Europe—and His Remaining Channel to Washington
Why do the hosts see a lasting Russia–Europe rupture while Putin preserves a channel with the United States, and what does that imply for Ukraine and energy?
A Warning That Washington Heard
The episode opens with a claim about an unusually direct act of deterrence before the Victory Day celebrations. Alexander Mercouris says Russia warned the United States that a Ukrainian attack would bring severe retaliation against central Kyiv. In his account, Washington then told Ukraine not to attack Moscow during Victory Day. Alexander Mercouris 03:27 “exchange with the Ukrainians, 500 men” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 03:27 Donald Trump presented an expanded ceasefire and prisoner exchange as his own initiative, giving both sides a way to step back.
The hosts do not claim that this single episode transforms US–Russia relations. They do, however, treat it as evidence that a sufficiently forceful Russian warning can affect American decisions. Mercouris concludes that this was a Russian warning that finally reached its intended audience. Alexander Mercouris 37:04 “actually. I I I think this I think this” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 37:04 That interpretation depends on their reading of private state calculations and remains unverified outside the episode.
Why Putin Separates America From Europe
The most important tension in the discussion is Putin's different treatment of Washington and European capitals. Mercouris interprets Putin's press conference as showing that Europe has become the principal enemy in Putin's own view. Alexander Mercouris 04:36 “it's Europe that he now sees as the” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 04:36 He offers a strategic explanation: the United States is distant, powerful, and capable of acting independently, so Russia needs a channel through which the two nuclear powers can communicate even in an adversarial relationship.
Europe is described differently. Mercouris believes Putin sees European governments as lacking comparable agency and as having chosen policies hostile to their own interests. He also thinks Putin sincerely attributes the crisis to European hostility. Mercouris rejects that allocation of blame and argues that US neoconservatives remain the ultimate drivers. Alexander Mercouris 11:10 “crisis. That the origin of the crisis,” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 11:10
The emotional explanation is tied to the failed Istanbul negotiations. Mercouris recounts Putin's claim that Emmanuel Macron asked him to withdraw Russian troops near Kyiv so an agreement could be reached. Alexander Mercouris 11:50 “was Macron who phoned him up and told” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 11:50 In the account discussed by the hosts, Boris Johnson subsequently helped move Ukraine away from the talks. Mercouris sees this sequence as central to Putin's lasting sense of betrayal, while cautioning that anger at Europe may conceal the American origins of some policy.
The War Continues After “Project Ukraine”
The episode makes a careful distinction between a political project and the war itself. The hosts criticize a TASS paraphrase that made Putin appear to say the conflict was ending. Their reading is narrower: “project Ukraine,” understood by them as an effort to destabilize and break up Russia, has failed or is fading. Mercouris explicitly says negotiations are not going anywhere. Alexander Mercouris 17:52 “negotiations aren't going anywhere.” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 17:52
That conclusion leads to a grim forecast. Mercouris predicts that after taking Donbas, Russia would present another offer that functions like an ultimatum. Alexander Mercouris 26:36 “but it'll be an offer like an ultimatum.” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 26:36 He expects demands concerning Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, the Orthodox Church, and Russian-language rights; he then expects Ukraine to reject them and fighting to continue. These are predictions by the speaker, not confirmed Russian plans or established territorial outcomes.
From European Energy to an Icy Peace
Mercouris treats the political rupture as broader than the current battlefield. He says Russian leaders increasingly equate Europe with the European Union and sees little route back while current institutions remain. Yet he does not forecast a conventional Russia–Europe war by 2030. Instead, he predicts an exceptionally icy peace, with confrontation continuing below the threshold of full-scale war. Alexander Mercouris 30:44 “going to have a very icy peace.” Direct Audio Anchor Listen from 30:44
Energy is the material counterpart to that political break. Mercouris expects most Russian sales to Europe to end, apart from possible limited arrangements with governments such as Robert Fico's in Slovakia. He says the long-term relationship will move toward major agreements with China, while Japan and other buyers could remain customers if restrictions such as the oil price cap are removed.
The episode's central conclusion is therefore not that Russia and the United States are reconciled. It is that Putin may still regard Washington as a necessary adversarial interlocutor while viewing present-day Europe as a partner that has forfeited trust. In the hosts' analysis, that divide leaves the Ukraine war unresolved, Europe facing a long political and energy separation from Russia, and the United States retaining a narrow but consequential channel for escalation control.
Interview Highlights4 exchanges
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Why does Putin direct his anger primarily at Europe while preserving room for dialogue with the United States?
Mercouris offers both a strategic and a sincere explanation. Strategically, Russia needs a channel to the United States because it remains a distant superpower with independent agency, while Europe is seen as lacking comparable autonomy. At the same time, Mercouris believes Putin genuinely regards European hostility as the source of the current crisis. Mercouris disputes that judgment and argues that US neoconservatives remain the ultimate drivers.
What does Mercouris expect Putin to propose after Russia takes Donbas, and why would the war still continue?
Mercouris expects Putin to make another ostensibly reasonable offer, following a lawyerly pattern of proposing terms the other side is likely to reject. After taking Donbas, Russia would present an ultimatum demanding withdrawal from Zaporizhzhia and Kherson plus wider Istanbul-related terms on issues such as the Orthodox Church and Russian-language rights. Ukraine would reject those terms, so the war would continue and Russia would pursue further objectives.
Does Putin expect a direct war with Europe by 2030, or does he see that narrative as self-serving political hype?
Mercouris thinks Putin largely regards the 2030 war narrative as self-serving political hype and does not expect Europe to be capable of launching a conventional war against Russia. However, conflict can operate at other levels: the likely outcome is an exceptionally icy peace, with indirect actions such as European airspace being used for drone attacks and possible Russian retaliation. Mercouris adds that Putin’s anger and distrust toward Europe are nevertheless profound.